Mike and Bianca joined Candice Mitchell for an intimate 49-minute coffee chat about the zigzag career paths that led them to co-author a book together. This isn’t your typical “here’s our methodology” interview—it’s the real story of how two people from different continents built careers they love through trial, error, and some unexpected detours.
Unique perspective highlighted: They make the case that non-linear career paths aren’t obstacles to overcome—they’re competitive advantages. Mike’s programming and digital marketing background didn’t delay his L&D success; it gave him insights that traditional L&D pros miss. Same with Bianca’s diverse industry experience across marketing, automotive, and events.
The conversation covers everything from early jobs that shaped their thinking (yes, including some questionable decisions and recorder lessons) to the Twitter exchange that sparked their book partnership. Perfect for anyone who’s ever worried their background doesn’t fit the L&D mold or wondered if career pivots are worth the risk.
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